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Preliminary remarks on the final phase of US Election 2016 [Sep. 27th, 2016|01:14 am]
Young Geoffrey
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Should any of you be interested, I think Trump is likely to win this election. I'm not cheering for him, mind you, but neither am I cheering for the war-criminal Hillary ("we came, we saw, he died!") Clinton. As a foreigner, I see no good outcome in the short term, and probably not in the long, unless Black Lives Matter and the renewed anti-pipeline native movement(s) can somehow coalesce in a broader, genuinely revolutionary movement with whatever remains of Bernie Sanders' supporters.

In the short run, whoever wins the Presidency, the Pentagon will ensure lots of foreign wars and lots of foreign casualties; and most likely, President Trump will prove just as friendly to the 1%, the class to which he belongs, as President Clinton.

All that said, I watched the debate with a sort of morbid fascination. Was surprised that Trump was so well-coached and impressed by his cool body language; when he wasn't interrupting, he appeared to be listening to his opponent. Clinton surprised me by being mostly fairly personable, much less stiff than I expected. But the eye-rolling and impatient smiles at Trump's more outrageous lies and innuendo probably did her no good.

No clear winner to my eyes, though; it's going to be a long couple of months. So I'll leave you with a picture.

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[User Picture]From: sabotabby
2016-09-27 11:51 am (UTC)
I didn't watch it. I think Clinton will win, though; American democracy is a mere formality, and she's the clear business choice. Then, of course, Trump's supporters will riot, but it won't be called a riot because they're white.
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[User Picture]From: ed_rex
2016-09-27 06:00 pm (UTC)

Clear business choice fer shure

... she's the clear business choice

No question on that. The full strength of the chattering classes is lined up with her, from Kissinger to Carter, Mother Jones to the Washington Post, George Bush (both of 'em) to Bernie Sanders.

But I'm reminded of the referendum on the Charlottetown Accord, when all the political parties, many women's groups and most of the Native leadership were all on-side, telling Canadians we had to vote for it, Lest Darkness Fall. Against that massive wall was a scattering array of left-groups, Pierre Trudeau(!), the Reform Party(!) and Quebec's separatists(!).

And I remember how many of us (I was one of them) on the left agonized about our decision, wanting to do right by the Natives especially, and many of us ( don't think I was one, but it's been a long time, and I won't swear to it) held our noses and voted "Yes" against our instincts and better judgments, both.

But a slim majority of Canadians, no doubt for a huge variety of reasons both noble and ig, said "No" and the shit-storm that followed was hilarious.

I remember hearing an interview with (I think) the Head of the Assembly of First Nations' essentially cursing out white people for our racism, then learning later that a majority of Natives had voted "no"; I remember the separatists and a lot of Quebec Liberals cursing the anglos — but most Quebecers voted "no".

Point being, a monolith of support for an establishment representative doesn't guarantee victory.

For a more recent example, look at Brexit. Or, more tragically ('cause betrayal; though god knows there was betrayal in Britain too), at Syriza's electorial and referendum wins in Greece.

We'll see ...
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[User Picture]From: sabotabby
2016-09-27 09:22 pm (UTC)

Re: Clear business choice fer shure

Oh, it's true. But I think even our referendum, and Brexit, are more democratic than the American elections.

I also think the media is overrepresenting Trump's chances in an attempt to seem fair and balanced, or something.
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[User Picture]From: ed_rex
2016-09-30 02:17 am (UTC)

Re: Clear business choice fer shure

But I think even our referendum, and Brexit, are more democratic than the American elections.

Yes, no question. A two-party system is in principle a bizarre way to run even a bourgeois democracy.

I also think the media is overrepresenting Trump's chances in an attempt to seem fair and balanced, or something.

I disagree. The media might like him for the ratings, but the political class is shitting their pants. Remember, Bush III (sic) raised $103 million before the Republican primaries officially started. Trump's been written off by everybody ever since he said he was going to run ... and look where he is now.

There's every rational reason he should implode, but I'm not counting him out yet.
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